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counting on the opposite, the democrats despairing, the right wing voting and independent voter forgetting. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. right now it's time for "the ed show" with ed schulze. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show." tonight from new york, these stories on the table and hitting my hot buttons at this hour. well, republicans are threatening political armageddon. i guess that's what you could shut down washingtonz if the tanman trades his 9 iron in for the speaker's gavlt. democrats listen up, now is the time to stand up to these guys. and the beckster, he must love it. he took another shot at me. this time he brought you into the picture. i think the beckster should be worrying about his own backyard. we'll cook his goose later on in the show. a former white house insider exposes rahm emanuel's contempt for unions?
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the guy who used the f word to describe progressives apparently used the same kind of language towards the autoworkers. an expert on the obama administration recently told me, hey, rahm's not the big bad wolf. i'll ask him what he thinks now. that's all coming up. this is the story that has me fired up tonight. democrats i think you need to get engaged right now. signs don't look very good. if you don't, in two months time, john bane ser going to be trying to find room for the speaker's gavel in his golf bag. michele bachmann is going to be doing everything to impeach, that's right, impeach the president of the united states and republicans, of course, are saying they're going to shut down the government. if you don't believe me, just listen to bush boot lick ser dick morris. >> i predict there will be a government shutdown again. i predict the branches will be at logger heads and the outcome of the 2012 election will hinge on who wins that battle of chicken. >> what a toe sucker. morris isn't the only one
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pushing the republicans into a shutdown. this is what ohio congressman jim gordon told a town hall meeting. >> mostly i'll be honest, mostly what we can get done is have the big fight and provide a framework for the 2012 presidential election. >> all right. so if boehner and mcconnell have promised to deliver their plans for america just after the august recess, but you see, psycho talker from arizona righty john shad tuck gave us a preview earlier this week. >> you want to suspend this economy, promise no new regulations burdening the economy or american business for three years. promise no tax increases for three years. watch this economy take off. >> so don't save lives for three years and the economy will take off. they're brilliant, aren't they? folks, this is the same playbook we saw back in the 1990s.
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the republicans go crazy when they don't have a stranglehold on power in this country. they don't give a damn about the needs of the middle class and they're pulling out all stops to help wall street make the bush tax cuts permanent. right? well, america is at a crossroads. either we keep pushing congress for the bottom 98% or go back to the most selfish generation this reported one in six americans are getting anti-poverty help at the federal level. almost 40 million americans need food stamps to feed their families nearly 10 million americans are on unemployment insurance and millions more have exhausted benefits completely. so let's take all those americans and throw them into the ditch. they're not worth anything. hell, they're just people. if john boehner and mitch mcconnell are setting the agenda, government help will come to a throttling dead stop. millions more americans will be
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joining the ranks of the 99ers, more will go 00 grirks homeless and hopeless in this country. republican candidates want to end public education. they're on record. they want to end it as we know it and make it a for profit industry. that will work. and they want to keep war the war in afghanistan going on and on as long as they have to. come of them just want to attack iran. there's no doubt speaker boehner will follow newt gingrich's playbook to the letter. shut down the government and target the president of the united states. minnesota psycho talker michelle bachmann has already promised subpoena after subpoena to go after everything she can get her hands on. i think she's up to something much bigger than that. the low information voter who's listen to glenn beck and his plastic jesus, they don't think the president is an american. here we go. bachmann is perfectly positioned to crank up the conspiracy
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machine and try to bring the president down. yes, impeachment proceedings. that's what they're really about. the tea party is knocking off incumbent republicans all over the country. their craziest members are the tail wagging the dog in the republican party. the republican tea party won't be satisfied with just making government smaller. they want to shut it down and destroy the president of the united states. it's all part, actually, it's the final chapter of how they want to play watered loo with the government. now, think about a government shutdown. are you asking yourself the question tonight, are you going to get your social security check? how about millions of american who's need some government assistance? this is what the republicans are all about. they're heartless and they are ruthless. and as a small business owner, i personally don't want to get too mean and angry about this but i'll say it this way. i will never fib the republican party for stopping money going to community banks. i know hundreds of small
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business owners that i have met at town halls across this country that all they need is a loan. but to get a loan today, you've got to personally guarantee it. how many people have the wherewithal to personally guarantee every loan in a small business? a lot of small businesses in this country operate paycheck to paycheck, week to week. many couldn't last more than four weeks if they run into financial difficulty. so the president comes up with a jobs plan. let's get access to capital to community banks and what did the republicans do? they said no. they are un-american, in the meantime, later on this evening, we'll bring you a story about how your tax money went to bail out wall street, one of the big firms and you know what they're doing? they're creating jobs in china. tell me about the economic patriotism that the republicans bring forward in this country. tell me what you think in our survey tonight, folks. 1-877-ed-msnbc.
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my question tonight is, if republicans win back the majority, do you believe they'll try to shut down the government and impeach president obama? press the number one for yes, two for no. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me now is the d.c. cc chairman congressman chris van hollen of maryland. >> ed, grade to be back. >> a lot of talk about how you guys are dead in the locker room. you don't have any momentum. all your fans have left the stadium and everything else. i want to know do you really think that the republicans will shut down the government and go after the president? what do you think? >> well, you have to take their own word for it as you pointed out, that's what a lot of the republicans in congress are saying they would do. let me say this. the point you're making tonight is the essential issue because the american issue because the american people need to take very seriously what the republicans would do if they were in control of congress. the good news is they've started to tell us. john boehner gave a speech in ohio the other day and started
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to lay out their plans. people need to take it seriously. he has already said they would repeal the wall street reform. a lot of lobbyists spent time and money drying to defeat that and john boehner saying we'll put wall street back in charge, who cares what happens to main street. he has said there would be no new regulations even after what we saw in the gulf, after the miners accident after all of that, and in ohio the other day, he said that part of their plan for the economy was actually going to be to cancel about 60,000 contracts and awards some of the contracts that are being let with recovery money that has not yet gone out the door. that in itself will snuff out the beginnings of the recovery, the fragile recovery and in the long-term as you pointed out, what's their plan? they want to add -- well, it's worse than nothing. they want to add $680 billion to the deficit and give the top 2%
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a big break even if that means that your children and grandchildren and everybody's watching are going to have to foot the bill and pay the price of a bad economy that will get squeezed by big deficits. we've got to the paint that picture clearly because they're telling us what they would do. there's no excuse for anybody to have doubts as to what they would do. >> do you think the democrats are going to be able to hold the line and not extend the bush tax cuts? >> look, it's very clear, yes, and here's what they're proposing. >> you think you can convince the other 98% of the american people they won't be affected and this is the right thing to do? >> the other 98% not only will the 98% get their tax relief, but if we provide tax break for the top 2%, the other 98% are going to be hurt in two ways. number one, they're going to be subsidizing the tax breaks for the folks at the very top because we're going to have the
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$680 billion bill added to our deficit. that's not my number. that's the nonpartisan cbo. everybody has told us, ed, in addition, the impact of the deficits is to slow down economic growths and job growth. >> what are you going to do to get your mojo back. the righties are everywhere. the democrats are back home trying to tell the story but how aggressive are the democrats going to be all over the media when they come back to washington? if it were me, i'd say let's just sell the american people what we're going to do when we keep the majority. isn't that it? >> we've got to push for the bill to provide small businesses with credit. i mean, it's outrageous the senate republicans are holding that up. it's a politically crass move. we've got to get out around the country and the president has got to get turbocharged and go out and make it very clear what the stakes in this election will be. >> are democrats in the house telling him he's got to get turbocharged? that leads me to believe you
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think he hasn't been. >> i think he's been laying the groundwork. he's been drawing the contrasts. he knows better than anybody between now and november 2nd when people are going to be paying attention, he's got to be all over the country making it clear what the choice is and not just what heal do, but the consequences to the american people of what the republicans would do. now that they're telling us we've got no excuse, take them seriously because that is as bad as it sounds, they are planning on doing it. >> congressman chris van hollen, thanks so much. going to be an interesting fall. joining us now is joan walsh, editor-in-chief what do you think about what you just heard? does it work? >> i'm impressed with everything congressman van hollen said but i don't hear enough of it from other democrats. i think the democrats are in trouble. i will say one proviso. it is really early. people are not totally focused.
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the polling being done is picking up a lot of the voter anger, a lot of frustration you and i both understand. once people really focus and once the democrats make this a very clear choice as we've been discussing, that these guys wants to take us back, they want to give the rich more tax cuts, they want to rescind the health care reform, et cetera, i think people are going to. >> they're not on message right now. chris sounds good but there's not enough of them out there on message. >> lots of things are interfering with their message. we have this republican congress, a republican white house but we've got alan simpson, a conservative republican running what we call the cat food commission because they want to cut social surity so seniors -- okay, so not only does he insult women, i won't repeat what he said, now he's said that another problem with the debt is that our wounded veterans are using too much of
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their disability pay. and they're not helping the country by that. so they go and serve but they aren't supposed to be compensated when they can't work. you know, we're missing. >> that's the kind of stuff you're going to get out of the republicans back in power. they are ruthless. >> why is he in a platform, a position of any kind of power? and you already referred to it. you'll talk about it later, rahm emanuel dissing another democratic constituency. the autoworkers. you know, after he said the same thing about liberals. this white house has not been entirely on message. they've really gone too far in reaching out to the other side. >> i think they all need to go home for labor day and have a cookout and reenergize. there is plenty of time yet. >> there's plenty of time. >> got to run. appreciate your time tonight. coming up, false prophet glenn beck can't stop running his mouth about me. buddy this fight is long from over.
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imexposing you more. all of your dirt tonight. and rahm emanuel doesn't give a damn about the autoworkers in this country? a former insider has a shocking tell-all that spills the beans about emmanuel. jonathan alter responds next. all that, plus a wall street bank takes your tax dollars and they run overseas and create jobs and chuck norris, karate chops his way into the zone. and here we go again. an oil platform catches fire in the gulf of mexico. details coming up. you're watching "the ed show" on msnbc. stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] ever have morning pain slow you down? introducing bayer am, an extra strength pain reliever with alertness aid to fight fatigue. so get up and get goin'! with new bayer am.
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welcome backing to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. a new book from steve ratner it, the former car czar reveals a shocking look inside the walls of the white house. ratner takes shots at everybody on the economic team, geithner, summers, blair, even the president. but what has me fired up is what he wrote about chief of staff rahm emanuel. he depicts rahm as a hotheaded egomaniac who doesn't give a damn about unions and big labor. according to ratner, in a meeting between ron bloom and rahm emanuel whether to save the
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auto industry, rahm asked "why even save gm"? ratner says rahm then just responded f the uaw. wow. remember, this is the same guy that once called progressives f'ing retarded for wanting universal health care. i want to know why this guy is still pulling the strings at the white house if this is accurate writing. joining me now is jonathan alter, news week columnist, political analyst and the author of "the promise," president obama year one. you spent a lot of time around this administration and you recently told me progressives are being too hard on rahm emanuel. is he the big bad wolf now that this comes out? >> i don't want to make a brief for him or spend a lot of time defending him. he's a big boy to defend himself but this doesn't impress me very much. my chapter on rahm emanuel
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called "rahmbo is rated nc 17 for language. he throws around the f-bomb practically every sentence. not just about you know, interest groups but business, other people in the government, even people in his own family. you know, so i wouldn't read too much into this as a line. the proof's in the pudding, ed. they ended up bailing out the auto industry and on terms that were so favorable to the uaw that i've heard nothing but complaints from business people and wall street people about why the secured creditors got screwed in favor of the unions. so you know, personally, i think the deal was pretty fair on balance as does ratdner. you got to look at the facts here, not just at the kind of epithets. >> so your message to labor tonight would be don't overreact to this because ratner did write
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about the administration labor, no one in the obama administration ever asked us to favor labor for political reasons. how do you think that's going to play with labor? labor put president obama in the white house. >> and they got the bailouts on terms the best it could possibly be expected. so you got to distinguish, ed, between the juicy inside details which i love, you know, i loaded up as many of them as i could in my book and so did steve rattner. in another category look at what actually happened in these deals. and over tremendous opposition, they moved forward with bailing out both gm and chrysler and the amazing thing that nobody talks about is that it worked. it got these companies back on their feet. are employed. it saved hundreds of thousands of jobs. hundreds of thousands. >> there's no doubt about that. it was a loan, it was not a
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bailout. we all know that apartment money's going to get paid back. but i guess you don't get credit for saving stuff if you're a republican. >> you don't. >> do you think rahm emanuel is a detriment going into the mid terms for the president? do you think he's going to be there for a while? >> i think he's going to be there as long as he wants. the president still has great confidence in him. you know, he's the guy who got congress back for the democrats in 2006. got the house back. >> that was a long time ago. >> you know, he knows a little something about getting house members elected. >> do you think he can help the democrats get the mojo turned around and get the momentum going again? the most recent polling does not bode well for the democrats. >> i think they're making a lot of mistakes. i don't think they're framing the message right. the message needs to be simple, rebuild simple or tax cuts for the rich.
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rebuild america or tax cuts for the rich. instead it's way, way way too complicated. so rahm emanuel and david axelrod and the rest of them need to get on the beam in terms of the politics here, but you know, nobody goes in and votes because of a presidential aide. so he's clearly a more use on the inside than he would be if they sacked him. >> i don't think anybody's going to vote on a presidential aide but it doesn't sound good when eventual almost a hostile attitude. it's like they don't even like the labor, but you point out they did get help to save jobs. good to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. when you combine chuck norris, the nra, and a dirty mouth grand marks you only get one thing, some serious twisted psycho talk. walker texas ranger will round house his way right into the zone. ta with us.
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and in psycho talk tonight, chuck norris getting back into politics. after failing to get huckabee elected two years ago, walker texas range ser teaming up with the nra. they put out a commercial to scare gun lovers everywhere that politicians want to disarm them. the commercial's got red necks, a feisty old lady and borderline threatening language. the only thing it's missing is sarah palin holding a dead moose. >> politicians want to take away
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your constitutional rights. what are you going to do when they come take away your gun? >> i'll tell those [ bleep ] to get off my property. i'll [ bleep ] the out of them. they'll have to pry it from my cold dead hand. >> whoo. >> chuck norris? >> folks, there's only one way to protect our rights. register to vote. i'm chuck norris. and i approve this message. >> for more information, visit trigger the vote.orging paid for by the nra freedom action foundation. >> interesting. did you see any old angry white people in that commercial? different story. so, last year, we were supposed to think the government was about to pull the plug on grandma. this year we're supposed to worry that grandma will have to go down fight fog for her gun. for the nra to fear monger about gun rights disappearing all ever a sudden is psycho talk.
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coming up, hey, beckster, not done with you, buddy. you keep talking smack about me. i'm returning fire tonight. it's fun. you may want to put notes on your chalk board when it's said and done. some outstanding democrats have found themselves in a fight for their political lives. seems like the less the outsider knows the better shot they have at one winning. russ feingold, folks we need to make sure he stays in washington. he'll be in the battleground coming up. all that, plus a massive brawl breaks out on the ballpark field. a trapped miners, they make a crazy request. and a burning oil platform in the gulf. details coming up in the next half hour on "the ed show." stay with us. you're watching msnbc. ♪
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>> welcome back to "the ed show." a battleground story tonight, no elected official is safe in the mid terms. anti-incumbent sentiment is at
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an all-time high. three incumbent senators have gone down in primaries. seven others are polling at less than 50%. harry reid is hanging on by a thread in nevada. three-term powerhouse barbara box ser facing a real battle out in california, even the progress sieve russ feingold is in a real tough fight for his seat in wisconsin. senator feingold is a progressive as progressive as you can get. he voted against the iraq war, against the patriot act, against the wall street bailouts, all very strong progressive positions but somehow we've gotten to the points where the less a candidate knows about washington, it seems the better off they are. now feingold a guy who has always fought the good liberal fight is up against a candidate trying to buy the election so he can go to washington and extend the bush tax cuts for the rich. senator russ feingold joins us tonight here on the eds show. good to have you with us
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tonight. you know, have you been one of the most hard-working guys out there. you do over 70town town hall meetings a year. what are you hearing in wisconsin and why are you polling below 50%? >> well, this is a year of challenges, because of the mess that was left us from the bush years and obviously people are saying, wait a minute, who's going to best help us get out of this come january into the coming congress. i think it's fair for people to ask the question. but it's game time as you you would say and the packers versus the vikings. in this case, people are going to look at the two choices and i'm kcht when they see my opponent's attitude towards working people and the loss of jobs in wisconsin we'll be able to prevail because this election is about jobs. we think we have the better argument on that. >> your opponent is independently wealthy, he spent over $4 million on tv ads already. you have spent $1.4 million. if this is a horse race about
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money, you're in a tough spot right now. but one thing do i find interesting is that ron johnson has said that china has a better climate for business investing than the united states. >> that's correct. >> what about that? >> yeah, ed. and every one of my races i've been outspent. i like being the underdog. he's spending more than any candidate in the history of our state, more than bush or obama or kerry. this is what he said yesterday. and this is why he's coming unrafrled. he talked about steve wynn, the vegas hotel guy said he's creating resorts in communist china and his point is the level of uncertainty, the climate for business investment is far more certain in communist china than it is in the u.s. here. so here's a guy who claims to be for freedom, who claims to be more free enterprise and jobs praising the communist chinese system over our system. that's not going to play well with the people of wisconsin. >> i don't think it is either. the turnout is crucial.
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i've done a town hall in madison. there were folks telling me about how their plant is being shipped to mexico. it would seem to me that you would have support from core democrats. do you sense that people are motivated in your state? >> yeah, they're getting motivated especially in this race because mr. johnson actually came out and said that he would have been for nafta and gatt in the china deal. i voted against nafta, i voted against gatt and led the fight with jesse helms against the china deal. here's what johnson says. >> i get all that. why are you in trouble there? >> ed, we're going to win obviously this environment is very tough for economics. here's what i want to tell you. this guy johnson described these trade agreements as creative destruction. you got to win elections and make the case. this is gametime. we're going to make the case and do this because i stand for the working people of wisconsin. >> i know do you. good to have you with us tonight.
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appreciate your time. you bet. now let's get response from our panel on these stories. alaska's brand new republican senate nominee joe miller took a page out of his buddy's sarah palin's playbook and called president obama bad for america because of socialism. former u.n. ambassador and proud neo-con john bolton isn't ruling out a presidential run in 2012. please, help us. iran better duck and cover if this guy gets anywhere near the white house. ben quayle is getting hammered on christian radio. turns out writing for a racy website under the name brock landers may not help that crew when it comes to family values image, you know? with us tonight, todd webster, democratic strategist and heightdy harris out of las vegas. all right. let's talk about this joe miller. he had a very interesting interview. here's his comments about president obama, how would he
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describe him. >> if you had to in a sentence or two describe barack obama, how would you do that? >> bad for america. >> that's one sentence. you don't get that often out of a politician. on what do you base that? >> he's one of the major forces moving this country toward socialism. >> todd webster, respond to that. >> well, it's idiotic. in a word. it's ludicrous and silly and what he and tea partiers and others tried to do is to undermine the president, his authority as president try to degrade him as a human being and it's unfortunate. the reality is that the reason why we're in this spot we're in is because of the bad economy and because of eight years of failed republican policies. over the last two years because senate republicans have done everything they can to prevent any meaningful legislation from being passed even the small business bill coming up next month. >> heidi, do you think this simplistic message is going to work with voters. >> you know what, i'll tell you
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the truth, i appreciate it. you interviewed a lot of politicians like i do and they don't say anything. i think it's funny what todd said, degrading and undermining a president. never happen with bush. i'm shocked. >> what would you have said to him if you had asked him that question and he said he's bad for america because of socialism? would you be satisfied with that interview? >> no, i would have asked him to expand on it. i'm sure i would have asked him to expand. look at one thing, health care. it's not constitutional. i know you want single payer pair. i get that, some people do. most people don't. that is not what america's based on. that's not capitalism. that's socialism. socialized smeds. that's what it is. joe miller is exactly right. >> do you think we should get rid of medicare and medicaid and soci security? >> absolutely, of course. >> get rid of all of that. >> todd webster, there's your choice right there. >> i don't understand why republicans hate older people and hate social security and hate medicare. i admire their courage and
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laying out their position that they would like to dismandatorytle social security and medicare, two of the most important social programs that is have provided decency for americans over the last seven, eight years. at least we're being clear with our positions now. there's a very clear choice in november between people who would dismantle social security and medicare and people who would trial to shore it up and strengthen this country. >> i can't to see old people sitting in trailers eating cat foods. of course, that's not what i want. >> for the common good of the people, that's in the constitution as well, heidi. >> please. >> what do you mean, oh, please? you mean to tell me you would favor getting rid of medicare and medicare which saves lives and a proven program and approved by the american people for generations? >> everybody wants something they're going to get a check from the government for. >> these folks have paid into these programs for years. >> i know they have but they
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should never have been created to begin with. everybody's paid into it. i've been paying into social security for 30 years. i want my money too. >> we're trying to make sure you get it. you keep running us into wars that aren't paid for and then we've got to borrow against it. that's exactly what's happened. we did a lot of stuff off budgets and the republicans ran us down that road. now instead of fixing the problem, you want to get rid of the programs. >> that last stimulus bill cost us more than all of our war in iraq. >> half of it was tax cuts. >> you know there were republican economist who said we need to do a stimulus package. john bolton it, here he is on fox. john bolton talking about running for president. here it is. >> are you running for president in 2012? >> well, you know, it's a great honor when people ask me that question and i have been asked that question. i don't think anybody involved in politics should worry about that until after the elections
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this fall because i think they're so important. so that's to the extent i get involved. that's where i'm going to put my focus for now. >> you're not saying no? >> i'm not saying no, that's right. >> todd webster, where would his support come from? >> that's a very good question. i would think that given the wars in iraq and afghanistan, that the appetite even in a republican primary for messon nick interventionist who's want to sends u.s. troops to remake foreign countries in our image would be fairly limited. he apparently thinks there is an opportunity for him and god bless him, it would make a very interesting republican primary. but this guy is so far out of the mainstream. john bolton makes john birch look like jon stewart. it would liven up the debate. i don't know where he would get any supported. >> what do you think? >> he's not going to be president. maybe secretary of state but not president. he doesn't have the charisma and doesn't have the resume. yes, he's been a diplomat. there's no way he's going to be president. this day and age, you've got to
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have more charisma like mitt romney or barack obama. whether you like people or don't, charisma is a big factor, especially in the tv age. >> do you think mccain had charisma. >> not as much as he probably needs. >> all right. that's right. because he didn't win. ben quayle is getting hammered by his democratic opponent on christian radio. here's the commercial. >> as a an christian and a mom, i'm worried that morality is slipping away in our country. i've read that congressional candidate ben quayle helped create one of the most offensive websites i've ever seen. the site promotes drugs and prostitution, is filled with meanness and foul language. humiliates women and mocks people with down's syndrome. on the site, ben quayle wrote? my moral compass is broken. i can't even find the parking lot." with a broken compass, i don't think ben quayle's going to be the one who takes us in the right direction. >> what do you think, todd? >> i think it's fair game. and not only because it's. >> that's the most aggressive ad
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i've seen so far when it comes from the democrats. >> yeah, look, we can all have youthful in discretidiscretioin. it's misogynistic. he takes on the name of a male porn star as his pseudonym. i think the real problem here for ben is that he lied about it. he first denied very involvement. then it came out he was one of the founders of this website. people have a capacity for forgiveness, but i think they will only forgive once ben quayle comes out and says i was involved with this, i helped create this thing. i then lied about it. but i'm now asking forgiveness >> he admits after a lot of pushings that he wrote a couple of posts up there, a few. >> he was a founder of it. >> there's a difference. for dirty scotts dale, not the same thing as the nothing is more dirty than politics. he didn't create the he wrote for something prior to that. >> but the ad, it's the ad, is
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it effective, does it work? have you ever seen a democrat go down that road before? i have to say i haven't. >> people should ask questions. i think that's fair game. people should be able to ask him for clarification, of cours of . >> coming up, the greedy suits over at citigroup have my blood boiling tonight. they took 45 b, billion dollars from you and me, the taxpayers and now they're running to china to create jobs. where is the fairness on that? america's mayor is going to rip roar into that one. he sounds off next. stay with us. [ male announcer ] redesigned power e-trade pro.
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and in my playbook tonight, citigroup, the third largest bank holding company in the united states is creating up to 7500 jobs over the next three years. u.s. taxpayers baled out citigroup to the tune of $45 billion back in 2008. now they've paid the money back and they're already to create jobs over in china. stephen bird, citigroup's cochief executive officer for the region told reuters his company plans to open up two branches a month in china for the foreseeable future and told reuters the company's strategy is progressively more weighted to emerging markets. greater china is the future he says. citigroup is entitled to do anything they want but on the brink of destruction, they turn to the american taxpayer to save their backsides. now when unemployment is at record levels, the united states people need help, they decide to create the jobs where? in china. joining me now is america's
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mayor, verge ben narrow. does this one make your blood boil? >> well, ed, on the one hand i don't mind businesses expanding in emerging markets but this is particularly galling. i've just -- i'm in the middle of a tour around michigan, what i call the main street fighting for main street tour. what we're hearing in cities all across the state and i know this isn't news to you is that people can't get access to capital even after outfits like citibank were baled out, they're not loaning to places like michigan. we've got businesses, entrepreneurs ready to hire, small businesses ready to expand, ready to create jobs. >> no doubt. virg, we are seeing no economic patriotism whatsoever from the very companies that got taxpayer dollars. >> michigan is being red lined. we can't get the capital. and they're expanding in china. like i say, i mean, yes, they
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should go and make money where they can. i tell you, this is an emerging market. michigan. america is an emerging market. we would like to emerge out of the doldrums of this economy. we are not enjoying recovery. banks like citibank are not investing in michigan. they're not investing in the heartland of this country. the wall street banks have written us off. that's why we're on this main street tour to explain our plan. and in fact, just today, we announced a plan to get michigan's money out of the wall street banks and invest in community banks and community credit unions because we're tired of seeing our money take a one way trip to wall street and have them invest overseas. >> it's un-american. that's all it is. virg ben narrow, appreciate your time tonight. here we will go again. the oil and gas platform owned by mariner energy exploded 90 miles from the bp disaster site in the gulf today. all 13 crew members you can see
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them here in the water were safely evacuated from the burning platform. the cause of the explosion is not known. i really, really i think we all really need to figure out what the heck we are doing down there drilling and maybe we ought to rethink this new moratorium. 33 miners trapped a half mile underground. they're asking for wine and cigarettes to be sent down. order to help them cope. nasa denied their requests. it might take another three months to free them out of that mine. coming up, i'm going round two with the beckster. that's next on "the ed show." stay with us. ♪ i thought it was over here... ♪
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and finally tonight, the beckster is challenging my comment about my ability and pull to get 300,000 people on the mall. >> by the way, the thing on ed schulze said that he, yes, he could draw 300,000 people at the mall, yeah. uh-huh. hey, ed, just a quick personal note. first, why don't you try to draw 300,000 you know in the demo and then just to turn on their tv. and then you get back to us on the mall. >> such a christian. always turning the other cheek, isn't he? okay, beck, i'll get back to you on that one. first let me explain to viewers what it means by the demo he's talking about. the great people that watch my show between the ages of 25 and 54.
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now beckster, let's take a closer look at your crowd of nut jobs. you know, i don't see too many of the demo. you know, i'll say it again. they're old. white, angry, mccain/palin leftovers. and you know what, nobody really checked the age on the geese. so you know, you might have something here. >> at 9:59, what happened was there was a flock of geese that ran. it was a flyover, if you will. someone caught it on tape. here's the flyover. this was happening just as the opening music was starting. >> you know, and i bet that v meant victory too, huh? actually, glenn, these geese were getting the heck out of there, just like the people behind you when you were talking. look at those people running for the exits as the psycho talk goes on.
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joining me now is roy sekoff. i hope he does it again because i had so much fun with this. il reiterate i think i could get 300,000 people on the mall. roy, what do you make of the final analysis? >> well, ed, right before you started this segments, two ducks just went walking across the studio. it's probably significant. you know, there's something about a certain kind of guy it always comes down to my dem mole is bigger than yours at the end of the day, right? here's the thing with beck. you know at the end of the day, ed, he really doesn't have that much pull when it comes right down to it. he was against obama. he was elected. he came out against the estimate lus. it passed. he fought against health care. it passed. he fought against financial reform. it passed. when push comes to shove, he doesn't have much political impact. >> didn't he have help from billionaire brothers that took
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care of all the bussing and free pans transportation for a lot of folks. >> the shipping was all prepaid. we have to be careful not to denigrate the people who turned out to the mall or try to put down or make sound like there's less real legitimate anger in the country. there's a lot of suffering as you documented on show day after day. we have to pay tribute and be aware the danger for progressives is that they can't leave a vacuum for a charla tan and demagogue like beck preaching the phony gospel of unity while really talking about hate. i think that's what mime most worried about, democrats embracing the deficit cutting mantra instead of the job creation mantra. that leaves a vacuum open and that's when a guy like beck steps in. >> roy, great to have you with us. tonight in our survey, i asked you if republicans win back the majority, do you believe they would try to shut down the
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